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Industry associations voice support for ASIC review

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The Adviser

The heads of the two main mortgage broking industry associations have both voiced their broad support of ASIC’s newly-released report into broker remunerations.

Peter White, executive director of the Finance Brokers Association of Australia (FBAA), and Mike Felton, chief executive officer of the Mortgage & Finance Association of Australia (MFAA), have both released statements that largely welcome the Australian Securities & Investments Commission's (ASIC) Review of mortgage broker remuneration, which was released last week.

FBAA take on the report

The FBAA said that the ASIC report on finance broker remuneration is “positive for the industry, with Mr White stating: “In general it is a very good report and supports what I have said for the past 12 months or more, in that base-line commissions are perfectly responsible in our market place and they should not change, while incentives that promote volumes risk poor consumer outcomes and must go.

 
 

He said: “Truth comes through transparency, and therefore ownerships and disclosures prove that we as an industry have nothing to hide.”

Speaking to The Adviser last week, Mr White said: “Any incentivisation of volume is problematic because it creates the risk of poor outcomes. So, soft dollar commissions, monthly incentives, promotional incentives are all the wrong styles of things to have in the market place because it puts at risk the appropriate style of outcomes for the consumer, because [they are] driven by money, and not necessarily by best outcomes. The outcome could still be right, but it just puts that outcome at risk.”

He added that incentives for volume, such as those “paid to the aggregator [by a lender] as an incentive for them to encourage the brokers in their group to deal with them” have already “virtually” gone in the industry.

The FBAA executive director said: “This behaviour has virtually gone in the market, because I think everyone knew this [report] was coming… It was a very obvious promotional thing that had to go.”

Brokers can reach 70 per cent of market share

Mr White added that, all in all, he believes the report can help in the drive to ensure the “professionalism and the integrity of this industry is maintained so we can push to get 70 per cent or more market share like they have in the UK”.

He said: “If we don’t have the standards right, then we're never going to achieve it. We have to have our professional standards strong, secure and cemented. And I believe what ASIC is doing in the moment, will achieve that in the main.

“There may be some arguments along the way, I'm sure, but there's nothing that is going to destroy the industry.”

For example, Mr White said that whether some of the data goes far enough to form conclusive outcomes, is “a question that needs to be discussed further”.

“There are a couple of such matters that we have already raised and will be further discussing with Treasury,” he said.

Mr White said the FBAA is continuing in-depth discussions with ASIC on several fronts, and is formulating its response to Treasury in conjunction with input from members and key industry stakeholders.

“We look forward to further discussions with Treasury and we continue to be confident in the positive and sound position brokers’ value-proposition holds for borrowers”, he said.

“For now we need to absorb all that is within this paper and make informed positive responses knowing that fundamentally we have a strong, solid industry.”

MFAA response

Like the FBAA, the MFAA has also expressed broad support for the recommendations made in the ASIC report.

The MFAA’s CEO Mr Felton, commented: “The MFAA is supportive of increased transparency and clarity on regulations in the service of better consumer outcomes – this can only continue to strengthen the sustainability of our industry.”

Touching on the recommendation to leave upfront and trail commissions largely untouched, Mr Felton said the association believed it was “appropriate” to leave the current structure of commissions in place.

He said this was due to the fact that they are “clearly disclosed to consumers and are mostly uniform across the industry, meaning they don’t incentivise brokers to recommend one loan over another. These commissions allow brokers to provide invaluable service to consumers during the process of obtaining a mortgage, and for the life of the loan,” he added.

Calls for caution on some findings

However, the association did “urge caution” over the fact that “many of the findings recommended further study to see if perceived conflicts of interest were actually resulting in poor consumer outcomes”.

“While this report refers to the potential for conflict of interest with regard to some of the incentive structures in use today,” Mr Felton said, “we will continue to work with the government and ASIC to determine not whether these things might cause a conflict, but whether they are actually causing negative consumer outcomes.”

For example, Mr Felton said: “The report has recommended as a general rule that the industry moves away from volume-based incentives, or VBIs, and ‘soft-dollar’ incentives. Again, we accept that some change may be needed, as long as the regulatory focus is on what behaviours the incentive is driving, rather than nature of the incentive itself.”

He added: “Incentives that reward strong performance are a positive element of most industries and sectors, as long as they reward the right behaviours, and do not diminish competition.

The MFAA went on to say that it acknowledges that any remuneration structure that undermines consumer choice and competition “must be reviewed”.

Mr Felton continued: “While we have seen little evidence of VBIs being passed from aggregators and lenders to brokers, we do not support this practice. Similarly, while we are broadly supportive of ‘soft dollar’ incentives to reward high-performing brokers, any incentive that could encourage brokers to recommend specific products or lenders must be looked at.

“We strongly believe the current structure incentivises the right behaviours and encourages competition and choice between lenders – and volume-based incentives allow aggregators to fund critical compliance, training and IT functions that allow them to perform extensive administrative and other services on behalf of lenders, brokers and consumers.

“We believe these incentives — as long as they are not passed on to brokers and do not limit competition and choice — should be retained.”

The MFAA said that ASIC’s review process had been “well-informed and consultative” and that the body “appreciate[d] the level of consultation with industry to understand its complexities and the value that mortgage brokers bring to consumers and to the Australian economy”.

Mr Felton concluded: “We have continued to reinforce to ASIC that brokers drive competition and provide a critical service to consumers that combines choice, expertise and convenience, to help them make informed choices and get the most appropriate deal.

“Brokers rely entirely on referral and customer relationships in building their businesses, and are incentivised in a number of different ways that drive good consumer outcomes.”

The CEO said that while the MFAA will “always support any measures that can help to drive greater consumer confidence in brokers,” it would be “advocating strongly against any new regulatory requirements that place a heavier burden of compliance on our members without a clear link to a consumer benefit”.

Mr Felton added: “We also believe that any action to adjust the current remuneration structures needs to continue to be made with the consultation and understanding of all participants within the value chain.”

[Related: ASIC: change standard commissions and move away from bonuses]

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  • Peter White - FBAA Monday, 20 March 2017
    Hi All - please note that you are not reading my comments in its complete context. May I state for the record that the FBAA is COMPLETELY AGAINST ANY COMMISSION CUTS to the standard up fronts and trail as paid to brokers. To suggest anything else is fanciful. We are engaging with members and our key stakeholders to expand upon our strategy and plan to combat any such thoughts/considerations. If any of you have heard me speak on this you would know this very clearly. Please do not speculate on such an important subject and be at liberty to email me direct.
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    • Peter, ASIC's report is recommending reductions in broker commission on multiple levels. LVR based comm structuring (banks won't pay more for lower LVR but will happily pay less on higher lvr - surely you know this), plus removal of bonus comms and other remuneration incentives.

      You are supportive of the review. That's not speculation or fanciful it appears to be factual. Unless you have been misrepresented in this article.

      You state:
      "incentives that promote volumes risk poor consumer outcomes and must go."

      &

      “Any incentivisation of volume is problematic because it creates the risk of poor outcomes. So, soft dollar commissions, monthly incentives, promotional incentives are all the wrong styles of things to have in the market place"

      It is very clear you are pushing for brokers to earn less & you "advocated" to ASIC supposedly on our behalf for this anti-broker agenda. Then get annoyed when people call you out on this.
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  • Mr Felton said, 'and volume-based incentives allow aggregators to fund critical compliance, training and IT functions that allow them to perform extensive administrative and other services on behalf of lenders, brokers and consumers. We believe these incentives — as long as they are not passed on to brokers and do not limit competition and choice — should be retained.”
    The MFAA are so out of touch, in particular, out of touch with small businesses, like Mortgage Brokers, with their preference always tilted to Big Banks and Big Aggregations companies.
    What Mr Felton is saying in the above article is:
    The MFAA agrees that the Banks can reduce the commission paid to the Mortgage Broker by adjusting the Standard Commission Model and removal of 'Soft Dollar' incentives but keep any Volume Bonuses, and only give them to the Aggregator, who already charge Mortgage Brokers a % of the loan amounts to cover their 'value proposition'.
    MFAA supports Big Banks and Big Banks support Aggregators... and Aggregators are creaming it!
    Point one of the summary recommends changing the Standard Commission Model:
    'ASIC proposes that lenders change their standard commission arrangements so that brokers are not incentivised “purely on the size of the loan”.
    Hang on... A Real Estate Agent is paid a % of the size of the sale price, a Car Dealer is paid a % of the size of the sale price, a Property Manager is paid a % of the rental value, every State and Territory Government is paid a % of the sale price in the form of Stamp Duty, Council's calculate their Rates as a % of the Gross Rental Value, Land Tax is calculated as a % of the land value, dividends are calculated as a % of the share price value, insurance is calculated as a % of the policy size, an Aggregator is paid a % of the Mortgage Broker client's loan amounts, this is the nature of a Commission, therefore Mortgage Brokers should be paid as a % of the Loan Facility, unless if ASIC what to change the rules of Commission in every industry across Australia.
    Will ASIC look to reduce the commission a Car Salesman receives if he sells a car that has a bad resale value? Or reduce the commission if the car doesn’t have the maximum safety rating? Where will this end?
    Whenever I write a loan that includes 'cash out' I always detail to my clients, 'please note, the larger the loan facility the more commission I receive' and not one client over the past 11 years has said, 'now that I know you are going to be paid more, I no longer want to proceed with the higher loan amount'.
    If I wrote the loan without getting my clients approval, and in the future my client decided to complain, I would be in a position where I could be fined up to $200,000 or go to prison. There is no incentive to push clients into taking out larger loan amounts for the sake of a little extra in commission. Include Clawbacks into the equation and I may lose 100% of the commission if an unforeseen event in my client’s life occurred.
    As a Mortgage Broker my job is to find a suitable product that is going to work in my clients favour today and into their future. By accessing additional funds now to use in the future, for example to buy an investment property, may potentially save my clients money from having to refinance. It also locks in the equity amount, which allows my clients to plan and prepare their goals with certainty.
    I can understand why the MFAA support the findings because they are conflicted with whom they represent but the FBAA, at this point in time, I am a little disappointed.
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  • Under this same rationale (ie restricting client choice & affecting client outcomes), when will the MFAA & FBAA as well as the Aggregators take issue with CBA disaccrediting Brokers for lack of volume?
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  • Although this report does not talk enough about the hard work and sacrifices that we as brokers make for our clients best interests, (including those sacrifices made by our families that have to put up with us while we work long hours) it is not the end of the world either.
    Blind Freddy can see that Caribbean cruises for brokers that write x amount of loans for one lender give the wrong impression. If we want to ague the toss on points like this then we will be in strife and get zero support from the regulators and the public - we are not the industry equivalent of Rosa Parks sitting on the Back of the Bus and need to stop carring on like we are, so lets get a grip and let the Peter White of this world do their thing.
    As brokers we are all sailing on the same boat, we have taken fire but the boat is far from sunk and their is a clear path forward, so let get the hoses out and deal with it. Complaining that is is all unjust and unfair (Although I can emphasise with this as an initial reaction) will achieve nothing in the end. Lets focus on keeping base line commisions there, and if a component of these commissions needs to reflect LVR/ client outcomes then lets do it with consultation with all parties.
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    • No broker gives a rats about a cruise trip or Rosa Parks.

      Peter White's "thing" appears to be green lighting commission cuts and increased regulation.

      Since we are on a boat analogy. ALL HANDS on deck, dangerous reef ahead.
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      • Well we should give a crap - as carrabien cruises effect the perception our indiustry, and that perception is the Biggest enemy we are facing. Yes the rosa parks analogy was a bit out there, am happy to looks out for reefs if you can get the life rafts ready.
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        • Keeping with the quirky themes.

          If things go down at the bad end of my imagination. It'll be every broker for themselves. Like rats abandoning a sinking ship.

          But hopefully things pan out at the rainbow and puppies end of my imagination.

          Cruise trips & flat screen TV's don't figure in most brokers minds (certainly not mine). But the desire by bureaucrats to stamp out incentives is anti competitive and classic gov over-reach and over-regulation.

          Innovation to attract business is killed by a hostile ASIC. Next they'll tell me I can't run a quarterly highest volume credit rep comp in my business.

          If I want to only offer say bank X as they pay better comms (I don't, by just saying), why the hell shouldn't I be able to? It's my freaken business. As long as the loan is not unsuitable & I'm disclosing conflicts of interest on prelim assess then I'm complying with rotten NCCP nonesense.

          I'm just sick of the entire witch hunt on brokers modest income (in an industry with multi-million bank exec incomes) and amount of reg we are subjected to and was hoping broker assoc would fight for me rather than applaud ASIC for this debacle.
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  • The vast majority of my deals are high LVR as specialise in the construction & first home buyer space. Most of time these deals take twice as much effort as an 80% refi/established purchase. Not only is the loan more complicated but the clients are less educated and it takes a lot more time to educate them and make sure they understand everything.

    If anything you should get paid more for a high LVR.
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  • If a lender takes 10 days to process my application. I don't care how big the commission is I am not using them, unless the client demands it and is prepared to wait.
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  • In discussing the issues of volume incentivisation, nothing was mentioned about volume hurdles. Surely this is much more of a problem than the other incentives?
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  • Can someone explain to me why the industry bodies are supporting this nonsense. I mean we pay these mobs to advocate for us and after a massive attack on our industry they behave like good little children and don't make a noise. Are you kidding me get up and fight I don't want to hear that you support this I want hear that you think the whole thing is a joke and call for Kelly Odwyers resignation! Roll over on this one and good luck fighting the next one. Pathetic
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    • I really don't like unions, but it sure would have been nice to have an old school unionist representing us and applying the blow torch to ASIC and Kelly O'Dwyer publicly for the way brokers have been unfairly targeted and treated over the last 16 months.

      Everyone knew our aggregators wouldn't speak for us, no one thought the MFAA would stick up for us, but I was hoping (in vain) the FBAA would truly speak for us.

      I hope I'm wrong, but would be very surprised if banks don't use the excuse of the ASIC review and start delivering haircuts firstly on higher LVR loans (ASIC's ignorance on this subject appears to be astounding), then goodness knows how short the haircut ends up.

      It's fairly obvious management in aggregators, MFAA & FBAA have an eye to future job opportunities in the banks and are happy to sell out 15,000 plus small businesses for the sake of their own careers.
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      • In theory our Aggregators work on our behalf, like a union, who are meant to negotiate with different lenders to get us the best commission available for their members, the Mortgage Brokers, this is stated on most of their websites as one of their primary objectives/benefits that allows us, Mortgage Brokers, to have a large panel to chose from without having to negotiate with multiple lenders.
        I haven't heard 'boo' from my Aggregator, at a guess because management are still swimming in their 'Soft Dollar' incentives received from primarily the Big 4 Banks, like the MFAA who have given the green light for Bonuses to be paid ONLY to Aggregators on top of the commission split or flat fees they charge Mortgage Brokers members to provide their services.
        I know many Mortgage Brokers who do not use the majority of their Aggregators services, which means they are paying their Aggregator to receive the commission from the Bank, take out a chunk, then to pass on the remaining, sometimes up to 6 weeks later. And in return they get a computer generated Invoice.

        Banks refuse to deal direct with a Mortgage Broker, forcing us to join an Aggregator but if we want 100% of our commission we have to pay a flat fee, for example $800 per month or $9,600 per year for the Aggregator to receive and pass through my commission. This is a blatant rip off...
        The Aggregator is then meant to negotiate my commission to get me the best deal and yet ASIC's report found, detailed on page 81, point 415:
        ‘Based on our lender survey, approximately 70% of lenders reported that they paid the same rates upfront and trail commission to all aggregators with which they dealt.'

        The system is rigged towards Big Business, always has been and always will be with all major players fighting to keep their chunks of the pie with the only losers primarily being the Australian Consumer and in this debate, the Mortgage Brokers also...
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    • This is what happens when your Industry bodies are 'sponsored' by banks! Look at financial planning - their associations didnt even make a yelp when remuneration changes came in... because the banks sponsor the associations!
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  • What hope do we have when the 2 broker associations approve of comm cuts and increased regulation for brokers?
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    • I didn't read where the FBAA or the MFAA approved of commission cuts.
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      • Hi Ian,

        FBAA & MFAA both very disappointingly are supporting the end result of the ASIC review into broker remuneration.

        This same review that is recommending:

        1: Cuts to our remuneration (both directly and indirectly).

        2: Increasing our regulation.

        Tells me all I need to know about what they were saying to ASIC all along (supposedly) on my behalf. We are like lambs to the slaughter with these wolfs representing us. I thought FBAA was better than MFAA, but it appears when it really counts, they are no different.
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  • Paying comms as a % of loan size is the simplest way to recognise that often many of these loans are more complex and require more work. Its not a matter of "selling more debt" to a client. People who operating in high dollar markets know how much more work is involved in these deals. They are rarely standard "mums and dads" with PAYG payslips...
    People over selling debt that is not needed or used ("rounding up") can be easily managed by charging back the comms for non utilisation of these funds over a determined period. Though trail should still be payable if and when these funds are utilise. Clients often borrow more for a buffer. The suggestion that brokers sell higher loans for higher comms is - in the main - complete nonsense. The consumer ultimately decides what loans they are after and sign the application forms, Fact find, Credit Proposal and Loan Contract..... When will consumers carry some of their own responsibility and we can stop being a nanny state...

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